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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
一个事实两种感知，没有真相，或有机会主义强奸，只有红色警戒，么有灰色地带，no means no…silence does not means yes…沉默并非同意，拒绝就是拒绝；ask for yes before you going on….. one night stands or one night rape ? what if your daughter told you she was raped, what will you do? Kill him.
前三个故事用力过猛的程度依次减轻。沈腾的科幻最棒，是中国版的终结者故事。
其实没有tv好，
流量密码。。。导演就差把机会主义四个字写脸上了。今天发了个帖子，好几万个赞！
章子怡和沈腾就是中规中矩的鸡肋，拿的都是30年前的作文式的故事，不出大错的基础上，加了些自己擅长的东西，子怡玩情，沈腾玩段子
真相与否重要吗？不重要，判罪与否重要吗？很重要。
现在剧场版狂吹不又是吃了tv的红利
这个话题确实很值得探讨，每个人站在不同的立场观点完全不同甚至相反，如男主角的妈妈，作为女权支持者和母亲，爸爸作为儿子的父亲和假设变成女孩的母亲，是完全不同的态度。
上升到阶级、文化层面，各类人群对事件的认知则各有不同，判决也算是折衷的产物。如果我是陪审团一员，会坚持男孩无罪。
1、一篇最末长风和“爸爸”的拥抱。2、鸭先知
一个事实两种感知，没有真相，或有机会主义强奸，只有红色警戒，么有灰色地带，no means no…silence does not means yes…沉默并非同意，拒绝就是拒绝；ask for yes before you going on….. one night stands or one night rape ? what if your daughter told you she was raped, what will you do? Kill him.
总得来说，徐峥＞章子怡＞沈腾＞吴京
差不多就行了，求求了
还是metoo那些扯不清的事，稍显陈词滥调，不过法庭戏还是蛮精彩的，值得加一星
个人支持重判。世界需要重判的威慑，不得不承认，一开始我们更容易去共情男性，名校出身、热爱阅读、机场安检会热心地给老太太拎行李，亦有着男性更容易被喜欢的品质，英俊、温和、斯文得体，但恰恰是这些品质蒙蔽了我们的判断力，对“兄弟会”所制订的物化女性的“集邮”规则、对他与曾经的约会对象所使用的脏话、对他父亲对待女性的粗鲁、轻蔑，我们都选择性无视，恰恰是这种无视让我们看到了女性视角下同一个事件截然不同的感知，女性对其强奸的认定，恰恰是男性对女性的系统性的傲慢，他们并不认为女性的性同意权事关重大，他们总是试图将女性的恐惧、心口不一纳入一种欲拒还迎的灰色地带而对自身的傲慢非罪化。傲慢侵犯了人的尊严的平等，是全体男性都必须作出的检讨；傲慢不仅仅是宗教意义上的罪行，傲慢是一种精神施虐，是对人类文明的荼毒。
第一次看法国庭审戏，挺有意思的。女主演得很好。
很多人间世事是无法单纯地用法律准则来衡量的。
一个关于各有各的理、公说公有理婆说婆有理的故事。各有各的视角本来就是一个毋庸置疑的客观存在的事实，Everthing。
四分给徐峥拍的第三个故事。前两个故事立意宏大，看太多，毫无新鲜感，估计是位导演都能拍，是个编剧都会写这样的故事，完全是印模子的故事。最后一个故事看似新意，但已经猜到孩子与机器人的关系，西洋镜拆穿，食之无味。唯有徐峥的故事非常讨巧，恰好我做过文案，有共鸣，还有就是故事也有新意，从孩子的假作文到父亲的「鸭先知」，生动有趣，小演员很给力，感觉比徐峥演的还好，四个故事，后三个的主旨是失败不可怕，放弃梦想才可怕。同样的立意，徐峥的故事小巧灵活，幽默风趣，选材独特，印象深刻。
我倒觉得男方律师的发言极其中立中肯 反而女方就显得把个体案件上升到性别对立 总要扯上女性主义
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