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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
用中华文化做着人家电影的文化输出，算你厉害！
想螺蛳壳里作道场，以小博大却力不能逮。相较日影，韩片完全不擅长说教思辨体悟自省这一类题材，台词不凝炼，意像不典型，情节不自然，片中的几首汉诗水平不敢恭维。无论中学西学儒教天主教，对于韩国而言都是舶来品，反思二手文化总显得隔靴搔痒。在匮乏深厚底蕴的情况下强行人文关怀蛮尴尬的，几番坐而论道也流于形式，空洞苍白机锋乏力，做不到醍醐灌顶。如果只企求国产片拍到这种流俗肤浅的水平，无疑是低估了中国文化的格局和气度，也低估了中国人反躬自省的能力和深度。
都是读书人，为功名为信仰还是为求知，却是大不同。行至水穷处，坐看云起时，看邻人反思，想到故里无数人把青春与精力不是耗费在筑墙上，就是耗费在破墙上，实在叫人叹息。
兹山的亚里士多德。李濬益另一部充满诗情的《东柱》也是非常好。
苏轼！苏轼啊！！！美食！！文化！！诗歌！！历史！！！中国电影人在搞什么！！！捶胸顿足！！！
读书到底是为了什么？认认真真写一本书、做实业也不错。
一个叛逆士大夫和底层读书人的交汇，前者看出儒学之漏，后者痴于儒学之好，师徒异路，但终究是儒学败坏的国家只能从西学获取新的滋养。电影拍的悲而喜，学问探讨很多，情感描绘简略，结尾仓促，深思并不多，还是韩影以情取胜的那一套，可惜。
我只觉得有点不好，昌大的暴掐收税官未免也太戏剧冲突了吧，难道他当贱民时没有见过苛收赋利吗？等到做官了才突然发现吗？那可真是活在象牙塔里的少年啊！
前半部分轻描淡写中慢慢透露出导演的观点，信息量不大但每段镜头都自然且适当，后期突然发力，有些刻意表现师徒二人的正反矛盾，理想和现实的矛盾，有些过于仓促。整体来看，依然延续了近代韩国电影敢于反思敢于说破的风格，由中国传过去的性理学（即宋元时期的儒家思想体系）和西方天主教之间的思想碰撞，探讨新旧思想对人的影响，虽然故事的格局不大，但拍得很细腻很认真，只是整体配角的表演和节奏的设计都很一般，3星。
朝鲜半岛这片土地及在它上面繁育的民族千百年积累下来的自我矛盾、认同的冲撞、无解与挣扎在这部电影里尽数体现。
“西学东渐”虽然不太合适，但无疑是近年韩影在国际上大放异彩的显著特征；但《兹山鱼谱》却用温柔深邃到极点的笔触，去描绘了历史上西学东渐下，半岛丁若铨学者的一段人生。
假如当世界变成黑白纠缠不清的样子，唯有信仰和知识可以成为改变这种现状的一只蓝色的小鸟
理学和格物，入世和出世，民间疾苦声，自由平等观。若是流水账记录和商业片套路得以润化，真乃神片。海胆化身的青鸟也还是要躲在兹山中方能在污泥里飞过，任尔东西南北风。
中华上下五千年，为什么连这么简单的故事都拍不出来？
如果可以，我想给这部电影打上十颗星以表心悦欣喜之情。全片黑白色调最大程度地突出了其内容与思想，仿佛是先生又写下了一本白纸黑字的传世佳作供后人传阅。
在韩国近代化“睁眼看世界”的士大夫身上，对儒家的反思激荡在现代时空。导演李睿益几乎拍遍了韩国各个阶段的历史，高句丽时期、朝鲜王朝、日据时期，用现代人的视角去挖掘历史，越挖越深，电影越拍成本越低，终于挖到了“思想性”这个底层逻辑了。
毫无共鸣，完全看不下去，不知好在哪，这种题材等一个国产导演来拍吧
男二号卞约汉真特么帅，留胡子的造型真像张国荣啊。长这么帅其实真不适合穷苦海岛上的角色。
对沉重历史的轻柔触碰。导演对主题敏感度很高，一开始主题非常好，为苍生福祉放弃自己的信仰，和借信仰之名戕害苍生福祉，展示人性复杂，具备现实意义。后面提到徒弟意识形态摇摆，师徒意识形态分歧，我一度觉得这些人性复杂度很高级，后来发现只是为揭露封建社会腐败做铺垫，沦为黑白对错口号式评判，一直批判没什么，先复杂后面越来越简单就有点跌份。结尾煽情廉价。技术有明显瑕疵，镜头设计不熟练，剪辑点不连贯，转场生硬，“看！是谁来了”“看！那是什么”“看！有你的信”是最懒惰的转场方式之一，频频出戏，更不必说有些转场连过场戏都没有。中文字幕质量欠佳。薛耿求李姃垠年龄变化、卞约汉阶层变化的表演值得赞赏。
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